Gavin Mounsey: "There will come a time when only those who know how to plant will be eating". - Chief Oren Lyons.
Not necessarily! I beg to differ!
Obviously You do not understand system of government power at all!
Chief Oren Lyons is a native Iroquois. His native system of Indian demi-anarchy no longer exists in modern North Americas (USA/Canada!)
Do you know what happened to the farmers in the Soviet Union? In China under Mao? In Cambodia under Polpot?
Do you know what has happening to the Indian farmers in today India right now?
I know what happened to both my paternal and maternal grand parents during the "land reform" under Ho Chi Minh regime (1953-1956!)
Millions of Vietnamese and I personally experienced starvation after the Communists took over the whole nation in 1975, although we, all farmers, still had piece of land which had used to produce plenty of foods!
As long as people are being "governed", everything you produce can be taken away or even destroyed at anytime if you are allowed to do so at all! You need permission to produce even in your own garden! And that "permission" can be revoked anytime!
Don't ever tell me that such thing will never happen in "Western democracy!" or "That won't and can't happen here!" I have lived in different Western democracies since I fled Vietnam! Anyway, I digress.
At any rate, we, the human race, are worse than the boiling frog. For at least the "boiling frog" is neither aware of the coming heat nor understanding how the boiling spot works. We, the human race, do know and understand this government's murder plan in details! From the chemical GM foods, chemical poisons disguised as "medicine" to slow killer injection called vaccine, and the coming government made famine.... In one word, we knew that Governments have been deliberately murdering us. It's pure democide!
But not a single person, especially the so-called intellectuals, dare to utter the words REVOLT.
Yet, every year on the day 14 July, we commemorate and celebrate the spirit of the pitchfork revolution: the "Bastille" (14 July 1789)
We, right now, know very well that Governments are doing every thing to murder us... But we would not even dare to think of overthrowing them!
And when some people like Kazakhstans courageously did overthrow them. "We" hysterically, fearfully disapproved and condemned the Kazakhstans as being too violent and being "color revolution" ... just to cover our own cowardice IMHO (and Slav Squat’s of course) anyway.
How "civilized" we have been trained to be! We all have forgotten our self-preservation instinct!
I don't often agree with Paul Craig Roberts. However in this case I cannot help but agree with his remarks "this human race is so stupid to survive!"
As Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn regretted:
"We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
Thanks for taking the time to share your story and your thoughts on that quote with such passion and detail.
First of all, I can't even imagine how hard it must of been to go through what you describe, but I imagine it took courage, so I am glad you dug deep to summon that courage to get you to where you are today.
Could you elaborate on what you meant when you said "Indian demi-anarchy"?
I am not familiar with what happened to the farmers in the regions you listed in the past but I do have a close friend from Russia that told me the way his grandparents survived the collapse of the Soviet Union was to get out of the proximity of the city, get back to basics and provide for themselves through gardening and foraging.
I have not been keeping up on events in India either as here in Ontario, our corrupt government has been engaging in all kinds of shady activity (freezing people's bank accounts if they protest, police showing up at your house if you speak about protesting or about 'anti-government' ideas online and engaging in a range of other tyrannical shenanigans as well) so that has forced me to stay 'on my toes' and most of my attention focused on problem-solving locally.
It is interesting you brought up Kazakhstan, as I am actually growing some apple trees (which I grew from seed) that was collected from the wild apple trees growing in the Tien Shan Mountain range. The reason I bring this up, is that tough food producing trees like the wild apple trees of Kazakhstan are prime candidates for being integrated into an unconventional type of food cultivation/horticulture system called "Forest Gardening", "agroforestry" or cultivating a "Food Forest". These ancient horticultural systems were utilized by some Native American and First Nation peoples (as well as others on different continents) and they are ways of cultivating which can offer us an effective method to create resilient food/medicine production systems that are less likely to be raided by degenerates, mercenaries, government thugs or brainwashed soldiers as they are by the very nature of their designed, camouflaged to the untrained eye. These "Food Forest" become permanent gardens that require very little (if any) work to keep alive and producing once they are established. These systems contain a wide spectrum of species suitable for harvesting food, medicine, building material and other important resources. The mature Food Forest, looks like it sounds, and so because the modern eye has been trained to see food production systems as big fields, many would not recognize what they were looking at if they saw it and would ignore the forest garden as 'just another useless section of forest' and move on.
I will share links to a few examples below so you can see what I am talking about. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ancient-indigenous-forest-gardens-still-yield-bounty-150-years-later-study
http://www.daviesand.com/Papers/Tree_Crops/Indian_Agroforestry/index.html
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/what-is-permaculture-food-forests?fbclid=IwAR0xQQGjfgvRgpI8BFw5YcYzJfRbiX1Ao7mv9z0KgQAQ2mK4J8gamh5C05A
https://returntonow.net/2018/08/01/the-amazon-is-a-man-made-food-forest-researchers-discover/?fbclid=IwAR0-XsOZCldwRzlMG_mkBxxqqYAeZ90TAVEsO4nB-noboHGqX1TZS_nn0xo
https://www.sdvforest.com/agroforestry/the-fascinating-story-of-human-made-forests?fbclid=IwAR3OVHhCywwzOiCSBMWyk6_Bdy_q-GRRN2N7-525iqdnYmc_BqtKeyu6Wz4
https://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol26/iss2/art6/
https://canadianfeedthechildren.ca/what/food-security-projects/indigenous-food-forests/
If we cultivate food forests like the ancient peoples that lived in what is now called Canada, the US, Morocco and many other places we are building up food security and doing so in a way that is essentially 'invisible' to the ignorant. These systems provide habitat for diverse wildlife, replenish the water table, stabilize the soil and feed humans at the same time. Even if armed thugs were to kill those that tend the food forest, history teaches us the food forests gain their own momentum and continue to live on and feed others for many generations.
Canada is a vast territory, so while they (oligarchs and their puppet government officials) may be able to brainwash a certain amount of police and perhaps military there is nowhere near enough personnel to effectively/systematically harass, steal from, violate or murder all the farmers/gardeners that are outside of major population centers here. People near cities and towns, maybe if things get really bad, but there are just not enough people to do a drag net type operation across the whole landscape here.
Even though I do see the potential for the worst case hypothetical you describe (overt government-sponsored genocide/violent oppression in high population centers) being possible in our future (regardless of geographic location) I also feel that focusing a lot of time and resources on weapons or planning for combat/revolting is not a solid way to prepare for that potential emergency, because in the end, if the oligarchs unleash their full arsenal in the open, we are talking about high powered LRADs and DEWs (microwave based, laser based and other directed energy weapons) that can be mounted on vehicles at a distance and we are talking about heavily armed drones (and those are just a few of the technologies we know about). Preparing to defend oneself against nasty individuals that may cross paths with you in a survival situation if need be is one thing, but attempting to wage war on the plutocrats and their armies of brainwashed soldiers that possess next level weapons tech and fire power is (to me) a bad idea for so many reasons.
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